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Acquiring Titles of Nobility
One of the reasons this website is so large is due to the sheer complexity of all facts, contained herein. This family is spread out across every royal realm, in every royal direction and every royal country., Therefore it is difficult to determine where there are nobility or royalty rights remaining. Then it gets even more complex because prince jordans immediate last names and sur-names are both royal and noble at the same time. His family are French, Scottish, Irish, Italian, German, Jewish, nobility and Royalty. and each country has a different set of rules regarding handing down titles. but they all follow the same “Rules of inheritance” “determined by the original grant or act of creation!”
for example: “Queen Blanche of Navarre, France” during her reign, a title could be passed down to her descendants whether male or female. She married Lord Edmund Crouchback of England who’s rules stated, that a title could only be passed down too a male descendant. so there you have two sets of rules / two different countries / but one one in the same family.
*The fact a Royal title can be handed down by a Royal woman is substantial, because (if) the male line is broken, the royal line can still survive.
French Nobility Titles Rules for Men
The only way to acquire a title is to inherit it according to its original rules of transmission. In particular, it cannot be acquired prescriptively by usage.
In france if A nobleman son and grandson of nobles was called a noble de race or gentilhomme (although the term of gentilhomme is often used for any noble by birth). If all 4 of his grandparents were noble he was a gentilhomme des 4 lignes (nobility of all lines, and not just the paternal line, was usually of little importance in France, though a prestigious lineage in female line could be a source of pride; the emphasis on nobility in all lines may be due to the particular requirements for admission into the Order of Malta from the 16th century). If his pedigree went further and no commoners could be found in the male lign, he was deemed a gentilhomme de nom et d’armes. These definitions vary from author to author, and are not very important. In general, the status depends primarily on the length of the pedigree, and everyone agrees that a gentilhomme is a born noble: not even the king can make a man into a gentilhomme. Adoption did not transmit nobility.
Some regions in Eastern France allowed for transmission of nobility by the mother, notable Champagne at least until the 16th century, and Bar until 1789 (subject to the prince’s approval), but otherwise an edict of 1370 restricted transmission to the father.
Titles are not a full part of the family name, however, for a variety of reasons: they are not inherited by all children equally, but rather follow the rules of inheritance determined by the original grant or act of creation. Also, no one can be forced to use his title. Titles are, however, accessories of the family name, complements which help to distinguish among members of a family. As such, they are entitled to the same legal protection from usurpation as the family name
Under the pre-1789 regime, it was not uncommon for a M. X, owner of a lordship called Y, to have himself called “M. X de Y” (whether or not he was noble). It is still possible today for a French family to have such an addition to its family name, but only on the basis of ancient, public and continuous usage prior to the French Revolution (Angers 29 juin 1896, Dalloz 1898, 2.217).
French nobility Titles for women
Although some pre-1789 titles could be inherited in female line, the courts have decided that this cannot take place anymore.
To verify claim to a title, one must therefore contact the Conseil d’administration du ministère de la Justice, and present evidence relating to the creation of the title in full accordance with the laws in force at the time of creation (before 1789: the king, by letters patent; 1808-1815: by Imperial decree; 1815-1848: by Royal letters patent; 1852-1870: by Imperial decree; 1871-77: by presidential decree) and proof that he is the individual designated by the applicable rules of transmission to bear the title at present. The office in charge was until 1947 the “bureau du sceau de France”; since then, the office has changed within the ministry of justice. At present, the “bureau du droit civil général”, an office in the sous-direction de la législation civile, de la nationalité et de la procédure carries out the duties (direction des affaires civiles et du sceau – Sceau de France; 13 Place Vendôme 75 042 Paris, France).
The Association de la Noblesse Française (ANF) is a nonprofit organization founded in 1932 and “reconnue d’utilité publique” in 1967. Its current president is the marquis de Vogüé. It has about 2,000 families on its roster, about two thirds of the eligible number of families. Its committee on proofs applies criteria very strictly. The only eligible members are those who would be noble under the rules of the Old Regime or the regimes that followed and recognized nobility.
Unlike most peerages, many Scottish titles have been granted with remainder to pass via female offspring (thus an Italian family has succeeded to and presently holds the earldom of Newburgh[1]), and in the case of daughters only, these titles devolve to the eldest daughter rather than falling into abeyance (as is the case with ancient English baronies by writ of summons). Unlike other British peerage titles, Scots law permits peerages to be inherited by or through a person who was not legitimate at birth, but was subsequently legitimised by their parents marrying later.[2][3]
Irish Nobility Titles in Prince Family line (AHEM)
Although the great majority of hereditary peerage titles may descend only in the male line, there is a significant number of titles in the female line that may also be inherited by a female heir, and may pass down in the female line.
These are as follows:
De Clifford, Barony (E) 1290
Strange, Barony (E) 1628
Gray, Lordship (S) 1445
Grey de Ruthyn, Barony (E) 1324, abeyant 1963
Grey of Codnor, Barony (E) 1397
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The Lady jane grey part we have not disclosed yet . but yes there was a secret child.